Friday, December 14, 2007

International CPM Q&A

After rolling out International CPM ads and reporting earlier this week, we've consolidated some of the most common questions into a Q&A here on the blog. Often times, questions are asked on our blog's comment threads that are already answered in the related post -- so we ask that you read through this Q&A entirely before posting a question.

I'm seeing a really low CPM for my international traffic? Why?
As we indicated in Wednesday's post, initial CPM rates will initially be "low" because WidgetBucks is building credibility with these advertisers. As of today, we are implementing more targeted campaigns for traffic coming from countries that will quickly represent a better CPM. Specifically, those are UK, Australia, Germany, France, Italy, Netherlands, Poland, Brazil, India, and Japan. This means that an advertiser is delivered more targeted traffic -- and is therefore more willing to pay a higher CPM rate. Until now, advertisers are only willing to pay a base rate (or no rate at all) due to "international," untargeted ads.

How long does it take for WidgetBucks to earn credibility with advertisers?
Not long. In fact, publishers should see an increase in CPM rate over the next couple days as we expand targeting methods.

What kind of rates are you seeing across the board, and what are certain countries and regions seeing?
Rates are definitely varying by country (and see the question below on non- or low-paying regions). Most countries are ranging between $0.25 and $0.80 CPM, depending on ad size. In general, the 468x60, 728x90, and 160x600 ad sizes yield higher than the 300x250, and much more than 120x600 or 250x250.

Why is the new CPM tab in MyWidgets not showing any earnings, just impressions or all zeros?
If you see impression data but zero revenue, it means that the international traffic you are receiving for the widgets is coming from regions where advertisers aren't willing to pay. If you see no impressions data, then no international impressions are being received.

What are the non-paying countries or regions?
We are finding that advertisers are not willing to buy traffic from Philippines, Thailand, Malaysia, Indonesia, Singapore, Vietnam, China, Egypt, and Romania. Rates for other countries, such as Taiwan, parts of the Middle East, parts of S. America, and other regions earn under $0.10 CPM. It's really important to mention this is an advertiser decision regarding the value of that traffic, NOT WidgetBucks' decision. We repeat: this is an advertiser decision regarding the value of that traffic, NOT WidgetBucks' decision. I emphasize this because publishers, for whatever reason, will undoubtedly and incorrectly draw the conclusion it is solely WidgetBucks' decision.

I can't see the CPM ads on my site? Why not?
If you are in the US/Canada, then you will see the widget. Only site visitors outside of the US/Canada will see a CPM ad instead of the widget. Early in the rollout, we noticed a number of people asking about not seeing CPM ads internationally, but using a proxy server on our side, we have not been able to replicate this. In fact, on our blog threads, other commenters have indicated they can actually see the ads a publisher is indicating they can't see on their own sites. We continue to look into it and will monitor comments on this to see if it is persisting.

When will November earnings be posted on MyBucks?
Those earnings are now posted and available for viewing on MyBucks.


Publishers who have additional questions can check our Knowledge Base at the WidgetBucks Support Center (http://support.mpire.com). Tickets are being addressed there within 24-48 hours.

- Dean

66 comments:

Class 1 said...

Thanks for this useful information. Keep up the good work!


http://daily-web.blogspot.com

mansoor said...

Is Pakistan included in non-paying countries?

Roseli A. Bakar said...

Ok Thanks. Goodbye

Daniel Larsson said...

You think Pakistan MAY be on that list?? How many advertisers from UK/UK/CA (main advertisers) sell services to Pakistan?

Matei said...

You have shattered my dreams 4/9 countries that are in the non-payable list are in the top 10 of my traffic sources :(

The said...

Why the hell is Romania included in the non-paid list?
For God's sake, we're in the europeean union...
When you were asked, you said that Romania will be included on the paid list...

Are you going to increase the rates for Romania in the future? or will allways remain 0.001$/CPM ?

just let us know, don't waste our time!

Mary said...

In Romania country, the rates is very very slow.
Please increase rates for Romania!
Thank you!

Christopher said...

which parts of South America?

webhopper said...

Widgetbucks is showing different ads on my site; www.sacada2.net , what's the reason?
Most of my Traffic is from US.

Bapak Beruang said...

I have been getting hits from many paying countries and yet my CPM revenues are still showing zero. Why is that?

gautam hans said...

Thanks,
Now I am able to see my CPM ADS

Octavia said...

its a good topic

my site

download-market.blogspot.com

|oVeS said...

U mention "We are finding that advertisers are not willing to buy traffic from Philippines, Thailand, Malaysia, Indonesia, Singapore, Vietnam, China, Egypt, and Romania." I'm frm singapore so how do i earn revenue since u cant find any advertisers willing to buy traffic? It doesnt makes sense tt i place ur widget at my blog while i earn $0 for the past 2wks n so? If tats the case for wat i still place widget in my blog for when i cant earn? B4 u came out tis CPM i still can earn abit but now NOT even a single cents.

JohnS0N said...

Thanks widgetbucks! You've been always helpful answering emails, fixing known issues and making us publishers happier. If we benefit, you benefit!

I just sent a vote for you for the open web awards! We need a real adsense competitor!

Harish Kumar said...

LOL..i have been banned..

this is what i did

1). I DId not do self-clicks
2). Nor asked others to do it
3). I dont have a site in languages other than ENGLISH
4). I dint get money for the past 1 month..


u are a real adsense competitor ;)

Harish Kumar said...

BTW, no sort of so called "e-mails" telling the reason..

go on, i m making millions from adsense :)

Pepperclick said...

Thanks for updating us on everything so fast.
You are doing a good job of becoming a real adsense rival.

SUNIT said...

Hello, I am a Blogger from India...

Since this CPM was started... i was not gettting any impressions or earnings..

But today when i checked, it was showing the impressions but no earnings....

I am a publisher from India, and most of my visits are from India. And India is on ur top - paid list.. Then,, whats the problem with me>???

radu said...

widget bucs sux! really sux.

matrix83 said...

I'm from Indonesia. Why the ads I can't see in my blog.

iftitaj said...

My advice to Widgetbucks is to show any ads (even widgetbucks own widget) instead of leaving our ad-space blank for countries of which they don't have ads. It simply breaks layout of our sites. So consider it, show anything even if it won't pay.

Bapak Beruang said...

so many questions but where are the answers? I will wait... :p

Kathleen said...

I think for those of us who have placed the Widgetbucks ad and have no real hope of getting any further money due to the fact that advertisers are not willing to pay for the regions we are in ... Widgetbucks should honor whatever payment is due us since this was something we did in good faith, but that Widgetbucks failed to consider from the beginning.

happy said...

I have been getting hits from many paying countries and yet my CPM revenues are still showing zero. Why? and what is that?

today photo junkie said...

Impressions =1,423 Revenue =$0.00


WTF?

Jack said...

Hi,

As a publisher based outside the US, I was curious to see how the new CPM ads would appear on my site.

I was horrified to see that my panel ad now shows a faked windows message which advises the visitor that they are the 999,999th visitor to my site.

This is so wrong on so many levels.

1. An ad should be clearly recognisable as ad and not spoof as a system message.

2. An ad should be truthful, this ad is a blatant lie.

3. An ad should be upfront about what it is advertising. This ad isn't.

I have now pulled the panel ad code as this is not how I wish to treat my visitors.

Could I ask the WidgetBucks team if you are happy to carry misleading ads like this, and if you intend to continue to do so? I have no intention of damaging my reputation through association with this advertiser.

iftitaj said...

Oops! "Jack" comment is worth considering. Take steps against such ads quickly otherwise many publishers will leave widgetbucks soon. Those ads looks very cheap - and in return it shows our site as cheap. No professional even reasonable site publisher will continue widgetbucks if such ads continue.

blessedchristian said...

dont waiste your time for this widgetbucks becasue once you reach your minimum balance account they will not pay you instead they will suspend your account.and you will not recieve your money.what a waist thats what they do to me. they suspend my account without any notice and explenation.

jeffrims.blospot.com said...

i also have been getting hits from many paying countries and yet my CPM revenues are still showing zero. Widgetbucks cheating people?

dwarven said...

Hi Mr. WidBucks, My statistics is zero this month (December 2007), most of my traffic (http://naruto-video.blogspot.com) is from US, please help me, thanks

Jeremy said...

Funny how all the ads are coming from third party servers like ad yield.

|oVeS said...

it seem like widget team didnt reply a single qns we asked at all. Wats the point for us to put UR ads when we cant even earn A SINGLE CENT? Doesnt makes any sense at all.

JOvem said...

hello world i am very disappointed with widgetbucks
My account was deleted with no reason, i emailed them but nothing i even emailed Dean and nothing, i got payed , yes but my account was deleted, did they give me a reason? NO
but i don't care because now i believe in people who said that WB sucks, now i understand why.
Thnk u all

blessedchristian said...

thats why im telling you guys dont waiste your time delete all the codes on your website. and try adbrites. though they give small but they are honest.

jeffrims.blogspot.com said...

No Answer from Widgetbucks? Bye-bye widgetbucks, now i know it it true that widgetbucks SUCKS!

Sameer said...

New code is definitely not working properly, since the time i have add it, i haven't seen a single impression at widgetbucks login page.
I have 15-20% treffic from USA/Canada, 10% britain, 8% Germany, 40% from other european countries & rest from asia, and my account is not showing a single click or impression since i have add the new code. I am getting atleast 3000 visitors daily from above countries.
So please try to check your code,
its not working.

mogenius said...

Just thought id share my info as everyone else seems to...got around 10000 hits and made $0.62
lol erm obviously not amazing, have noticed the slight change they said - i.e. rates will increase as advertisers get comfortable etc.
I've listed the best CPM/CPC networks on http://www.bestads.co.cc
widgetbucks made my top 5, this was from PPC i expect CPM ads to improve greatly soon

//\\//\\(()) www.mopages.co.cc

noaman said...

One of the crappiest CPM ads on the net .
Please all members remove thses ads because all is a wast af banner space .
2000 impression -- 0.04$
this is a shame

wheadon_chris said...

Just a couple of points your service sees me (an AOL UK member) as an AOL US member so still displays shopping ads the only way I can test the CPM ads is by using a UK based proxy site.

I would have put this in the support site but when I tried to sign up to the suport site it told me I was already on the database but when I tried to do a password request with the same email it told me I was not on the database.

lea said...

it seems it turn back to widgetbucks ads sucks.

adsense competitor! i think .....

never.....

Alfred said...

0.01$ for a 1000 impressions.

Seriously its not worth wasting that space...

tonysage said...

I've never seen so many negative non-constructive comments in my life. This is my first time on Widget Buck's Blog, got it from the new ad feature and checked out. Um... to the users that are getting 1,200 impressions, but no clicks, think about what your ad is about and relevance to your site. Maybe no cares, but Widget Bucks works, try googling some idea's for your site to work. @Jack, your a funny dude, no sales man though. Do you know what a ad is? You also have the power to change the title of each widget ad you create to anything you want to say, anything, you could even have say, i like big buts and I can not lie. You control your own title. Oh, btw, I tried to keep my comments more pro and constructive, so if you have something to say in response to this, please feel free, or if you need help just post. Everyone else...there is no quick money, just promote your site and everything else will fall into place. Thats it I'm done, onward and upward for all!

Jack said...

@tonysage

Thanks for taking the time to respond, but did you take the time to understand the comments you were replying to?

The people complaining about low returns are talking about the CPM ads shown to non-US visitors. CPM advertising doesn't depend on clicks. You get paid per thousand impressions. Maybe you're coming from more of a US-centric viewpoint and weren't aware of the CPM rate concerns, but some of CPM rates quoted here don't compare favourably with industry norms.

My own point was also in relation to the CPM ads. Once Widgetbucks detects that the visitor is not from the US, they get a CPM ad from some third-party agency instead of a "proper" Widget. As publishers, we have no control over these ads. Nada. Zilch.

This is why I raised here my concern with disreputable ads appearing on my site, damaging my reputation and damaging WidgetBuck's too. I feel it would be in all of our interests for there to be some editorial control over these ads.

phantam said...

my site had 1700 cpm displays and only .03 wtf

tonysage said...

Jack, I understand more now than ever. But don't forget how corporations work, corps. go through channels they know will make profit.

Look at it this way, perhaps Widget Bucks and it's parent company have no control over it as far aggreements, contracts, etc. Maybe my point of view is of US perspective, I'm fine with that, maybe I can provide useful inspiring links for you to pose this question too, and maybe then the real bucks for your efforts will show. Check out these sites and let me know if at all the pros of blogging tell you.

http://www.shoemoney.com
http://www.problogger.net

These to guys are living large, and they are pros at blogging and sharing their success stories for all. If this doesn't help, at least you should be walking away with something. Look into SEO too, this new form of META is amazing, I have to find the site, but keep at it, use all forms of advertising, referrals, aff., how many do you use now?

tonysage said...

@Jack, I understand more now than ever, thanks for the insight. But don't forget how corporations work, corps. go through channels they know will make profit, it could all be US.

Look at it this way, perhaps Widget Bucks and it's parent company have no control over it as far agreements, contracts, etc. Maybe my point of view is of US perspective, I'm fine with that, maybe I can provide useful inspiring links for you to pose this question too, and maybe then the real bucks for your efforts will show. Check out these sites and let me know if at all the pros of blogging tell you.

http://www.shoemoney.com
http://www.problogger.net

These to guys are living large, and they are pros at blogging and sharing their success stories for all in advertising and making big bucks. If this doesn't help, at least you should be walking away with something. Look into SEO too, this new form of META is amazing, I have to find the site, but keep at it, use all forms of advertising, referrals, aff., how many do you use now? and most of all, make sure your ads etc, blend in with color size, design, etc. with your entire site, clicks work better when blending in with all content on your site, because all your content will match the widget and provide more resources for your readers or buyers. I'm no pro btw, but soon!

Onward and upward.

tonysage said...

sry for the double post, a little laggy.

For the users that are getting 1,000 impressions, can you give me a link to your sites?

Thanks

onward and upward.

tonysage said...

iftitaj, what is your site address btw?

Also have you ever worked with Flash?
Have you any idea how long it might take, problems with timeliness you run into, embedding the right code so it's universal?

Has anybody worked with Flash, show of hands?

Me, and sometimes it's a pain in the kisser, why is ad sense popular?

I'll tell you, because it's cheaper for Google to run text based ads with a silly border that cost them less money to produce, no flash programs, no licenses to purchase, and no animator to pay a large sum too.

Don't forget people the purpose of Widget Bucks ads is to introduce a dynamic way of reaching the masses. It's NEW, INOVATIVE. Who ever has Flash on their site this isn't for you, the rest of you that don't, you best believe I'm hollering at you. *breath*

So everybody calm down, take a breath and give the team CONSTRUCTIVE feed back that we all as publishers can benefit from.

Holla at me.

Thanks!

Make it Happen!

onward and upward.

Jack said...

@tonysage

I'm not sure what you're trying to say this time. "Corps go through channels they know will make profit". Corporations are going through the channels we provide. Their ads are appearing on our sites. We're bringing the eyeballs to their ads. The concern mainly being expressed on the board here is that the fee we get paid for those eyeballs is less than the market rate. But that's not even my biggest concern.

My biggest concern is about the quality of the ads. I've already seen untruthful ads on my site, thanks to Widgetbucks. Ads that the unwary might actually think weren't ads at all, but messages from me. For all I know, there might be all sorts of other unwelcome ads appearing on my site - ads for warez sites, porn sites, phishing sites, ebay sites for discredited sellers, who knows?

If anything makes me leave widgetbucks it will be quality of their CPM advertisers.

And just to correct the assumption you made in your post - I'm not publishing the ads on a blog, but on an internationally popular web site.

I've been an ecommerce professional for a decade now, I make my living from it. I sell my services on SEO among other things.

I appreciate your positive, cheerleading outlook. Just be aware that when you misdirect it, it can be grating.

INTERNET INCOME OPPRTUNITIES said...

Thanks for the information.

But Nigeria is the only traffic source for my blog. Maybe one day, i will be able to earn money from Nigeria.

Amar said...

Hi, I am a blogger from India and am seeing ads on my blogsite. I dont know what a CPM is and I dont know why there would be no impressions that reflects on my widgets where as I am able to see people who have visited my site
http://food-advisor.blogspot.com

sns said...

Hi, I am a Blogger from India...

Since this CPM was started... i was not gettting any impressions or earnings..

But today when i checked, it was showing the impressions but no earnings....

I am a publisher from India, and most of my visits are from India. And India is on ur top - paid list.. Then,, whats the problem with me>???

iftitaj said...

@tonysage:

QUOTE: [iftitaj, what is your site address btw?

Also have you ever worked with Flash?
Have you any idea how long it might take, problems with timeliness you run into, embedding the right code so it's universal? ...]


First of all your point of view that each ad is created separately seems not feasible. With this era of sophisticated databases, its all database-game. For Example, they stored picture, price, name, etc of each product in database & then developed a script/code which make such widget (Flash) in real-time --- that means they only have to add products' main details in database.

Thats my point of view, I don't know how widgetbucks works. But you point of view that each widget is to be created separately in Flash is wrong/not feasible in this era of technologies.

My site's address is iTaj Technologies
But its still in development phase but is online. :)

Radio said...

thenewsroom.com offers $1.00 cpm

Innovative Rhythms said...

Hi,
I am not able to see CPM ads on my site when accessed from India. Any reason why?
My site is fundoodeal.com.
Early resoulation would be appricated.

Shubham NeO ©® said...

Well I have 2 Imp Doubts Here :

(1) I want to shift to showing widget and not CPM Ads all over the region ie in complete globe and not only US . Can I Do That ???

(2) Even the clicks r not counted on my ads . Y ????

iftitaj said...

@Shubham:

About your first query, I'm doing the same, I put back my old widgetbucks code on my site & now all users are seeing widgetbucks ads but only US/Canada users clicks count. No CPM in this case but its far better than cheap-looking ads.

vishu said...

mi

vishu said...

:-( tehn i should leave widgetbucks ,thanks anyway bye

Groapa cu prosti said...

I love Adsense and I have my account banned for incorrect click from an external IP.

WidgetBucks can check for external boombs ?

http://groapacuprosti.ro

My India said...

After Reading those above comments I am very confused, also loosing loosing Hope on Widgetsbucks because it just yesterday I got approval from WB.

so, the concern people should make necessary replies, It will be helpfull for newbies entering into WB

http://www.funinweb.blogspot.com/

Ravi said...

We are using widget bucks and our comments are
1 revenues very poor
2 quality of ads very poor especially screen saver ad are liked by visitors
3 very poor revenue for widgets also
not happy at all

Webster said...

Some countries could be banned for internet security reasons. Many countries are not up to par when it comes to online security.

rebounder said...

I am a publisher from Philippines but I get traffic from US and other paying countries. Do you mean it is also not credited?

rebounder said...

I am a publisher from Philippines but I get traffic from US and other paying countries. Do you mean it is also not credited?

Jim L said...

4000 impressions. $0.00. That isn't low, that is a joke.